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8-8-08
Self-censorship and the dictatorship of the
minority.
Nobody should be prevented from expressing their beliefs, that's
why we live in a democracy, right? Freedom of speech and all that?
Sometimes the threat of violence against those who try to express
their opinions comes not from the government but from intolerant
minorities. The publisher Random House has
decided against publishing a book, "The Jewel of Medina,"
a debut novel by journalist Sherry Jones, because of worries that
it might result in violence by sections of the "Muslim community".
Two things about this anger me: the spinelessness of the publishers
in their willingness to give in to would-be bullies who have not
yet even uttered a whisper of a threat, and the intolerance of
certain minorities towards any criticism, dissent, challenge or
perceived insult.
30-7-08
Who's watching Ban T-shirts? Do we have a fan
at the Pentagon? Or are we being checked out for some other reason?
Maybe they don't like our politics...

17-7-08
This link
is to an article which is the most sickening thing I have read
about police brutality. It is a decription of the hateful fascistic
thuggery of the Italian police towards the 2001 G8 protestors
in Genoa. As the author Nick Davies writes at the end of the article,
"Genoa tells us that when the state feels threatened, the
rule of law can be suspended. Anywhere." There will be no
justice for these crimes, no police will go to prison.
14-7-08
I love it when we get love mail! Here's one
we got yesterday:
First t-shirt site I've ever been to with authentic
liberal values and ideas rather than "I hug trees!" made on a
Chinese t-shirt. Though I don't agree with everything you say,
I respect your non-sweat shop labor approach and organic material
usage. I hope to one day own a business like yours where I can
earn a living without selling my soul to the capitalistic "free"
market of the world. You're a true patriot. Also the hate mail
is very very entertaining especially to a liberal from Redneck
Town, Virginia.
I agree that there are so many T-shirt sites
hopping on the liberal/green/eco bandwagon that have zero credibility,
especially those of the Cafe Press variety. Most of the time the
owners of these stores don't even bother thinking up their own
designs, they just steal other people's - we have had people directly
rip off our designs (ie download the graphic from our website
and upload it to their Cafe Press store and sell it as one of
their designs). Needless to say our tolerance of such activity
is ZERO and we always follow up with the threat and promise of
legal action and demand compensation. It makes us extremely angry
when we have spent days working on a design and some lazy individual
who only cares about making a quick buck steals it! And then to
make matters worse they just stick the design on some cheapo poor
quality, pesticide soaked, sweatshop, child labor made tee...
Damn, I'm gonna have to go lie down...
29-6-08
Just finished reading Cynthia True's biography
of Bill Hicks. To me, Bill
Hicks was the biggest artistic loss of the last 20 years,
more so than any other actor, musician, or other artist. It was
extremely sad to read about his last few months before he died
of pancreatic cancer, a disease almost unheard of in people under
50. I often wonder what Bill would have made of George Bush Jnr,
the Iraq war, 9/11, the erosion of personal freedom and so many
other things. What struck me most in the book was when he explained
to a friend why he did what he did: "I do what I do so people
don't feel alone." He knew what it was like to feel alienated
in society, in your own family even, and like many one-man shows
on the road he knew what loneliness felt like.
I found it ironic that another great comedian,
George Carlin, passed away while I was reading Bill's biography.
George, however, was lucky enough to live until the ripe old age
of 71, and was extremely prolific. I plan to explore as much of
his work as possible as he is very well thought of.
Speaking of comedy, check out this UK comedy
website, chortle.co.uk.
I was stunned to read that the Westboro
Church plans to picket Carlin's funeral. These are people
with hate where their brains should be. They released a press-release
titled "God Killed Potty-Mouth Comedian George Carlin And
Cast Him Into Hell".
Also there was an item about two
lesbian hecklers taking a comedian (Guy Earle) to a human
rights tribunal because they didn't like his put-downs. This is
about the most pathetic abuse of human rights legislation that
I have ever heard. It's an insult to people who are true victims
of human rights abuse: stuff like torture, unlawful imprisonment,
not receiving an education, not being adequately fed, you know
IMPORTANT stuff. It's like the school wimp running off to whine
to the teacher because she can't stand up for herself. If comedians
can't say what they like - if they can't make jokes without worrying
about being sued - then we have truly hit rock bottom culturally.
20-5-08
We are now going to be switching from non-organic
to organic shirts in all the remaining designs distributed by
Brunetto T-shirts - that's shirts like: Capitol of War (now organic
in all sizes except XXL), War is Peace (now organic in all sizes
except XL and XXL), Stop Shark Finning and Thought Criminal (we
just put in orders yesterday for organic shirts for these two
designs). The switching-over process takes time as we need to
phase out our non-organic stock, this is why we are not yet advertising
the aforementioned shirts as organic... but they're on their way
:-)
Another T-shirt related thing... we are moving
more towards using Royal Apparel (organic cotton) shirts, rather
than American Apparel. The reasons for this are that I believe
the quality of Royal Apparel to be better, there is less variation
in size between shirts that are supposed to be the same size,
and their self-promotion is less "controversial". The
cut of Royal Apparel shirts is very similar to the cut that American
Apparel use and their products are also made sweat shop free in
the USA, so if you are used to American Apparel and you like their
shirts you won't be disappointed with Royal Apparel.
24-4-08
More moral support, this time from.... SEAN!!
Until I read some of the hate mail that you guys
willingly posted I never realized how powerful a simple t-shirt
can be. The shirts message's are enough to ruffle some peoples
feathers so you must be doing something right. When people result
to name calling it's only because they have nothing left to say.
Keep up the good work; I will be buying from you shortly.
And one from Don, who hates the shirts, but
despite that is actually OK :-)
At first glance the only shirt that chapped my
ass was the Fort Benning shirt but after doing my due diligence
and finding out what you meant by that shirt my ass became un-chapped.
I’m a veteran of the U.S. Marines, I served in Iraq and Africa
(yes we have anti-terrorist ops there too) and I gotta say though
I think Bush is a fucking moron and I don’t agree with your shirts
statements. It sucks to see so many people lash out in the hate
mail as if the freedom of speech doesn’t apply to you guys. So
contradictorily speaking your shirts suck and fuck you guys (lol),
but keep up the great job in exercising your rights because whether
we agree or disagree, everyone has a right to speak up.
22-4-08
Another cool email, just thought I'd post it:
I just ordered a shirt...and was looking at all
the hate mail you receive...WOW... its funny how when I get into
conversation with people and voice my opinion (which I believe
to be rather open minded and peaceful) how many of these people
turn red and yell.... "THEN GET THE HELL OUT OF THIS COUNTRY IF
YOU BELIEVE IN HEALTH CARE FOR ALL YOU SOCIALIST BITCH" this happened
the other day with a complete stranger at a pub over some cold
beers....So yeah...its funny how you cannot have an opinion in
this supposed FREE country....we so try to pride ourselves on.....
Oh and my reply to this douche bag.... I served my country for
4 great years..pay my taxes..and yes asshole..... I believe in
health care for all.....and I won't leave because I have an opinion
different from yours.... maybe we should leave and let the Native
Americans have their land back.... Hmm...what a thought....
Molly
20-4-08
I received a couple of supportive emails (in
contrast to the usual hate mail) so I thought I'd post them here.
From Joe:
Great website. Love the shirts and will be ordering
very shortly. This is to all the e-mailers who can casually wish
death upon you for selling shirts and think that a website has
enough political pull to change the world. One particular e-mail
stuck with me that said ”I hope you dye when all the sand niggers
come over.” This e-mail is obviously from a prejudice person in
general, and very uneducated. As for Native Americans not respecting
Bush, no wonder! I don’t, and I’m not in their position. He does
nothing for their people. Your answer to his e-mail was not only
sweet, but true. Does the ignorance of the general population
frustrate you? There was also an e-mail about ignorance displayed
on your website. I see none. I see the truth and some people just
can’t handle the truth. Their brains have been washed so much
that they actually believe the media (I do not know how, when
every media channel you turn to has a different version of the
day’s events).
I didn’t see an email addressing the Native American
t-shirts. That was pure genocide by our government, for land in
the country these people live in today; I guess that’s O.K. in
their eyes, though. It was O.K. when our government massacred
helpless Native Americans and bragged about it, including women
and children. By the way, I’ve seen nothing on your website, degrading
the troops, only the falsifications about what this war is about,
and I concur!!! I support the troops. All troops deserve our support.
Some went for many reasons that had nothing to do with whether
they believed in the cause or not. For example, a young man or
woman’s parole officer tells he or she that if the military is
their last alternative or it’s jail and because Bush painted the
war as a piece of cake, they went in and that’s only one example
out of many I have.
Another thing is these military members writing
in and bashing the site, you sell t-shirts. They all went in of
their own free will but I think they have a problem because they
now know deep down in their heart of hearts that Bush lied to
them. That doesn’t mean that I support the troops any less, just
the Commander in Chief! So, instead of bashing a website, do something
productive, become a politician, because that’s what they all
sound like.. As in any group of people, there are good and bad,
and I personally hope we’re just hearing from the dumbfucks that
were over there and that is not the whole consensus of our military.
My relatives who have come home and are safe now, are very young,
got drunk and decided that the next day they would go join. How
sad. That’s exactly what they did. Another joined to get out of
a bad family situation. So, to all you hate e-mailers. Think about
that for awhile, and remember that ever time you email this site,
the responder makes an ass out of you. At least do a little research!!
Now, I think I’ll order.
Sincerely
Thinkbeforespeak
And an email from Lizbeth:
Hey congrats. to pissing people off. I love how
half the people in america are unaware that freedom of speech
can be related to a tee shirt.
18-4-08
"Poor go hungry while the rich fill their
tanks." Published in The Guardian.
"In the US and Europe over the last year
we have been focusing on the prices of gasoline at the pumps.
While many worry about filling their gas tanks, many others around
the world are struggling to fill their stomachs. And it's getting
more and more difficult every day." Read the article here.
The race for biofuels is pushing up the cost
of staple food like bread and rice. People are going to die so
we can buy gas. Think twice before you use your car... walk, cycle...
car-pool, share a ride into work with a work-mate.
16-4-08

Check out this anti-scientology
site, the author has had a lot of trouble and harrassment
from $cientologists trying to restrict his freedom of speech.
These people are control freaks and pose a real danger to those
who criticise them. They have a lot of power and money, it is
difficult to stand up to them if you are just a regular guy, but
the person nehind this site is doing a great job.
15-4-08
I'd like to share this email from a "Supportive
Service Member" (just to show that we're not universally
hated by the US Military):
Hey guys,
Just wanted to give y'all some positive feedback for a change.
I was reading your hate-mail section and found it hilarious. Right
off the bat, I want to say that I'm a U.S. Marine, but I support
what you do. I'm tired off all the service members online mindlessly
regurgitating what has been force-fed to them. I personally don't
like to label myself or affiliate myself politically, but I still
have my humanity as well as my own views. I loved all the comments
from people talking about the war when they have no idea what
really is going on in relation to said subject. Anyways, you have
my support and I look forward to further business with your site.
I take pleasure in fighting for a country where there is not only
free speech, but where there still are a select few who practice
it. Keep up the good work!
12-4-08
This
is why we use sweat shop free t-shirts: Indian
'slave' children found making low-cost clothes destined for Gap.
"Consumers
in the West should not only be demanding answers from retailers
as to how goods are produced but looking deep within themselves
at how they spend their money."
11-4-08
On
the subject of the Vandalism shirt, I received an email from a
visitor to the site a couple of days ago who had evidently spend
a good while checking out the shirts and thinking about what we
are about. The email is published below, followed by my response:
I
just stumbled upon Ban T-shirts, and was pleasantly surprised;
your offerings are much deeper than what one would find at most
T-Shirt sites, and though I feel some of your views are too idealistic
even for me, I nevertheless see their appeal.
However,
I do have a rather significant problem with one of your shirts.
For
the God is Dead shirt, you have written this:
"We
are making this T-shirt because we believe that in order for the
world to move on we need to overcome the concept of God that organised
religions, particularly Islam and Christianity, present to the
world. These religions present God in an inflexible, dogmatic
way and demand slave-like conformity to an "objective" morality.
While superficially preaching tolerance, they encourage conflict
by insisting that they are the only source of "truth". This is
a call to reject the God of organised religion and to believe
in ourselves."
Bravo!
I could not agree with you more. Unfortunately, however, this
message is not consistent with the rest of your site.
You
have quite a few shirts dealing with Native American rights; I
find none of them particularly appealing. While I agree that the
indigenous peoples of the Americas were sorely mistreated for
centuries, I do not think that judging those that committed said
misdeeds is useful or productive. That said, I do not particularly
dislike any of these designs, with one exception; your vandalism
shirt, for which you have written:
"Maybe
spray painting a few subway trains isn't such a big deal - when
compared to desecrating nature and the Black Hills sacred to the
Lakota."
Desecration
of nature seems an odd claim-- I agree that nature can be quite
beautiful without modification, but Mount Rushmore relies heavily
upon the nature that makes it and surrounds it for its beauty.
It is hardly a desecration. Do you consider any statue to be a
desecration of nature? After all, they are all artificial constructs
made from natural stone. The only thing different about Mount
Rushmore is that it was not removed from the source of the rock.
I'm assuming that you would not fight very hard to defend the
"desecrating nature" claim, which seems a silly one.
So,
we are left with the claim that Mount Rushmore has desecrated
the sacred. What? I thought we were supposed to believe in ourselves;
now we're supposed to believe in... mountains? Can you see why
this is not in keeping with the beliefs you have written for the
"God is Dead" shirt? The Lakota belief that the mountains are
sacred is just as inflexible, dogmatic, and ridiculous as any
tenet of Islam or Christianity. Why should their beliefs matter
when Christian ones do not? Simply because they are not an "organized"
religion? What does that even mean? So far as I know, the Lakota
religion has a set group of followers, practices, and leaders.
Granted, it has become marginalized, but what makes a marginalized
religion automatically better than an official one? The answer
is "nothing". I wonder if your respect for the Lakota beliefs
over Christian ones might simply be a matter of reverse-racism,
as pained as I am to use that term.
My
response was the following:
First
of all thanks for taking the time to write. You have obviously
spent some time viewing the site and thinking about what we do
and say, and I appreciate that.
To answer your point about the Vandalism shirt, I think I can
sum up my point of view by saying “we are not advocating the desecration
of churches or mosques”. While I do not follow any religion, I
respect the right of other people to do so, so therefore I would
not advocate burning down a church or defacing a mosque. However,
Native Americans see Mount Rushmore as a descration of a place
that is sacred to them, and I empathise with this view. “Nature”
and “sacred places” are overlapping concepts in Native American
culture and they cannot be so conveniently separated as they are
in Western mainstream culture. Mount Rushmore is the equivalent
of a Christian carving a huge cross over the entrance of a mosque.
But because of the closeness of the concepts of nature and sacred
places I actually think it is even worse than that.
As
you point out, native peoples have been at the sharp end of “manifest
destiny” for the last few centuries and things nowadays are just
as grim, both in the USA and the rest of the world. I don’t put
all religions in the same category, in fact I don’t even know
if Native American spiritual beliefs can properly called a religion.
Belief in “God”, a “Great Spirit”, yes, obviously, but it is not
a religion in the same way that Christianity or Islam is. For
one they don’t go around expecting everyone else to follow their
beliefs. Neither do they have a "rule book". Anyway – other points
I should make are that God is Dead was designed by me, and the
Native shirts are designed by Ryan Red Corn. You can check out
more info about Ryan here:
http://www.nvisionit.org/ryanredcorn.html
It’s
probably not reasonable to expect 100% consistency in what is
being communicated on our shirts, although I think it’s true that
they all fall into the same political ball park. People’s ideas
change over time, and there are shirts by various designers on
the site, so the message is not going to be 100% consistent.
10-4-08
The
UK and the US have spent billions invading/occupying Iraq, and
they
want some money back. After all, what's the point of an invasion
if there's nothing in it for the victors?
Tony
Blair will soon be leaving Number 10 Downing Street (at last)
- but he's desperate to cement the UK's "special" relationship
with the US before he goes... by requesting
that the UK be used as a base for the "son of Star Wars".
Well, Tony wouldn't care about what happens to the British public
- he'll most likely be spending the rest of his life doing lecture
tours around the USA.
The
US flew $12,000,000,000
(yes, that's 12 BILLION dollars, folks) into Iraq in cash. Now
they don't know where it is or what it was spent on.
Loads and loads of packages of shrink wrapped $100 bills in Baghdad
waiting to be misplaced.
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